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12/12 from clone or seed: more harvests a year, and why the founder is a huge fan

Flowering clones or seedlings on 12/12 straight away skips most of the veg, so one space turns over more harvests a year: about 4.5 harvests from a single room with 12/12 from clone, against about 3.3 with 4 weeks of veg and 2.7 with 8 weeks in the same space. Each harvest is smaller per plant, but packing in more plants (sea of green) raises yield per area. The founder is a huge fan and says that with good clones, dialled in, 4+ oz per square foot is not unheard of (field experience, well above published research yields).

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Short answer, in plain words. Most growers spend weeks growing big plants before they flip to flower. 12/12 from clone skips most of that: rooted clones go straight into the flower room. Each plant is smaller, so you plant more of them, and the room finishes a crop and starts the next one sooner. Over a year that's about 4.5 harvests from one room instead of about 3 (arithmetic below). The founder is a huge fan: with good clones, dialled in, 4+ oz per square foot is "not unheard of" (founder's field experience) [5]. That's well above published research yields, so read it as a top-end result, not a promise.

How many harvests a year?

Count from the flower room's point of view. With about 10–11 weeks from flip to harvest (a typical 8–9 week flowering time plus the 10–14 day transition after the flip; see flip-to-flower transition) and a week to clean and replant:

Approach (one space does everything) Weeks per cycle Harvests per year
12/12 from rooted clone 10.5 + 1 = 11.5 ~4.5
4 weeks of veg, then flower 4 + 10.5 + 1 = 15.5 ~3.4
8 weeks of veg, then flower 8 + 10.5 + 1 = 19.5 ~2.7
12/12 from seed (seedling must mature first) ~13 + 1 = 14 ~3.7

Harvests per year = 52 ÷ weeks per cycle. A separate veg or nursery space lets any approach keep the flower room flowering non-stop; 12/12 from clone simply needs the least veg space to do it.

ChartHarvests a year from one spaceFlowering rooted clones straight away gives about 4.5 harvests a year from one space; 12/12 from seed about 3.7; 4 weeks of veg about 3.4; 8 weeks of veg about 2.7.
012345Harvests per year (harvests)12/12 from clone12/12 from clone, 4.5 harvests4.512/12 from seed12/12 from seed, 3.7 harvests3.74 weeks veg4 weeks veg, 3.4 harvests3.48 weeks veg8 weeks veg, 2.7 harvests2.7024Harvests per year (harvests)12/12 from clone12/12 from clone, 4.5 harvests4.512/12 from seed12/12 from seed, 3.7 harvests3.74 weeks veg4 weeks veg, 3.4 harvests3.48 weeks veg8 weeks veg, 2.7 harvests2.7

Source: 52 ÷ weeks per cycle, table above; transition from the flip-to-flower article.

Show the numbers
ApproachHarvests per year (harvests)
12/12 from clone4.5
12/12 from seed3.7
4 weeks veg3.4
8 weeks veg2.7

Yield per year, not per harvest

Each 12/12 plant yields less, so the trick is density: in a controlled study, higher planting density increased yield per area, at some cost to cannabinoid uniformity between plants [2]. Across many studies, yield per area is driven mostly by light and plant density [3][4].

Illustrative yield per square foot per year (multiply per-harvest yield by harvests):

Per harvest × harvests Per year
2 oz/ft² after 8 weeks of veg × 2.7 ~5.4 oz/ft²
1.5 oz/ft² from 12/12 clones × 4.5 ~6.8 oz/ft²
4 oz/ft² from good clones, dialled in (founder's field experience) [5] × 4.5 ~18 oz/ft²

Honest note on the 4 oz/ft² figure. 4 oz/ft² is about 1,220 g/m². In the best published light trial, yield topped out at 519 g/m² at 1,800 µmol/m²/s [4], and our grams per watt answer puts well-run research rooms at about 500–750 g/m². The founder's figure is well above that range; it's a field result from elite clones in a dialled-in room, and a great candidate for documented GenetixBay grow journals.

By the numbers12/12 from clone, by the numbers
  • ~4.5Harvests a year from one space
  • ~2.7With 8 weeks of veg in the same space
  • 4+ oz/ft²Dialled-in clone runs, founder's field experience≈ 1,220 g/m², above published yields

Source: Tables above; trial yields [4]; founder [5].

Clone or seed?

Side by side12/12 from clone vs 12/12 from seed

From clone

Cut from a mature mother

  • +Can start flowering soon after rooting
  • +Every plant the same: even canopy
  • +Known sex and known cultivar
  • −Needs a mother or nursery space
  • −Pests and diseases travel with clones

From seed

Photoperiod seedling

  • +No mother needed
  • +Clean start
  • −Must mature first: first flowers around the 7th node, after 3–5 weeks
  • −Regular seed brings males to remove
  • −Uneven heights between phenotypes

Seedlings go through a juvenile phase before they can flower, forming their first flowers at around the 7th node [1] (see can I flower 12/12 from seed?).

What "dialled in" means

  1. Good clones: healthy, vigorous, rooted, pest-free, from a proven cut.
  2. Density: a sea of green, many small plants (see sea of green).
  3. Strong, even light: see more light, more yield.
  4. A nursery rhythm: the next batch rooting while this one flowers, so the room is never empty.
  5. Climate and feeding that keep up with fast-flowering plants.

Common mistakes

  • Comparing grams per plant instead of grams per square foot per year.
  • Flipping seedlings 12/12 and expecting flowers in week one.
  • Running 12/12 from clone without a clone supply, so the room sits empty.
  • Planting too sparsely for small plants.

Questions this article answers

Does 12/12 from clone yield more per year?

Usually, from the same space. With about 10–11 weeks from flip to harvest and a week to turn the room around, 12/12 from clone gives roughly 4.5 harvests a year, against about 3.3 with 4 weeks of veg and 2.7 with 8 weeks in the same room. Each harvest is smaller per plant, so you plant more densely (sea of green).

How much can 12/12 from clone yield per square foot?

It depends heavily on cultivar, light and skill. The founder says that with good clones, dialled in, 4 or more ounces per square foot (about 1,200 g/m²) is not unheard of (field experience). That's well above published research yields, which topped out around 0.5 kg/m² in one light trial and 0.5–0.75 kg/m² in well-run research rooms, so treat it as a top-end result.

Can you flower a seed 12/12 from the start?

Yes, but it won't flower straight away. A photoperiod seedling has to mature first, forming its first flowers at around the 7th node, typically after 3–5 weeks, so the run takes roughly 3 months. You'll also want feminised seed, since regular seed gives males you must find and remove. Clones from a mature mother skip that wait.

Why do 12/12 runs take longer than the breeder says?

Because the clock starts at the flip, and there's a transition of about 10–14 days before flowering really begins. Breeder flowering times often count from first pistils, not from the flip. Plan a 12/12 run as breeder time plus about 2 weeks, and log both days since flip and days of flower.

What do I need for 12/12 from clone?

A steady supply of healthy, rooted clones from a mother or nursery space, a flower room planted densely (sea of green), strong even light, and a turnaround routine so the room is never empty. The nursery is what makes it work: while one batch flowers, the next is rooting, so the flower room goes straight from harvest to the next batch.

Sources

  1. Spitzer-Rimon B, Shafran-Tomer H, Gottlieb GH, et al. 2022. Non-photoperiodic transition of female cannabis seedlings from juvenile to adult reproductive stage. Plant Reproduction 35(4):265-277. doi.org/10.1007/s00497-022-00449-0
  2. Danziger N, Bernstein N. 2022. Too dense or not too dense: higher planting density reduces cannabinoid uniformity but increases yield/area in drug-type medical cannabis. Frontiers in Plant Science 13:713481. doi.org/10.3389/fpls.2022.713481
  3. Backer R, Schwinghamer T, Rosenbaum P, et al. 2019. Closing the yield gap for cannabis: a meta-analysis of factors determining cannabis yield. Frontiers in Plant Science 10:495. doi.org/10.3389/fpls.2019.00495
  4. Rodriguez-Morrison V, Llewellyn D, Zheng Y. 2021. Cannabis yield, potency, and leaf photosynthesis respond differently to increasing light levels in an indoor environment. Frontiers in Plant Science 12:646020. doi.org/10.3389/fpls.2021.646020
  5. GenetixBay founder. Field experience (first-hand account; GenetixBay house position)..

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